The Pill

by cacophonies

edit as of 10/14/09: Please read the updated post that will appear sometime 10/14/09 evening (US Central time) for a clarification of what I intended to get across with this post before commenting on this thread. Comments from here on out yelling at me about my tone will be deleted. Thank you.

Amanda Marcotte wrote an article about how she’s irritated by all of the criticism of the Pill, and claims of scientific studies proving that hormonal birth control is harming women’s health and the planet. She doesn’t believe the claims, and believes instead that because the Pill symbolizes “female sexual independence,” it should remain on the market, for everyone, no matter what the silly studies say.

I usually really appreciate Amanda Marcotte. She’s an intelligent and insightful writer, her book is hilarious, and I just generally know that if she writes something, I’m likely to enjoy it. But jumping on the bandwagon of feminists who can rant all day about right-wing ass holes not believing in global warming and other proven scientific facts, and 15 minutes later are closing their eyes and sticking their fingers in their ears when someone says they ought to be informed and look for another form of birth control (there are a whole lot of choices out there, ladies and gentlemen) because this one is proven to be detrimental to most women’s mental and physical health, and also fucks with the ecosystem, is not progressive. Not in the slightest. And when they do acknowledge that all of those things can be true, they are very quick to claim that, regardless of all of the known dangers even to people who don’t take the Pill, we would have no right taking it away from the people who wish to continue using it.

Why not? We expect that once it was proven that cigarette smoke not only causes lung cancer in a smoker, but also in non-smokers via second-hand smoke, that cigarette smoking will no longer be allowed in an enclosed public space, in order to protect the people who are not choosing to do something dangerous to their health. In most Western industrialized nations, it is.

We expect that once we learned about the dangers of DDT to the workers who sprayed it, the people who ate what it was sprayed on, and the environment, that it would be banned. It was.

We expect that if it’s discovered that spinach has E.Coli, it’s recalled and stricter safety regulations are enforced. It generally is.

But feminists of the so-called “third wave” or contemporary persuasion, for some reason, love the crap out of Big Pharma. You can’t pry those precious prescriptions for all of their many problems out of their claws. They can’t seem to grasp the idea that many prescription medications are bad for you, and bad for the environment. If they can grasp it, they try as hard as they can to find a reason why it would be wrong, immoral and sexist to ban them. Or, how, Who cares if it’s bad, what you said made me feel fat!

Amanda discusses some study done somewhere that proved that while women were on the Pill, they were attracted to more “domestic” men than they were when they were off the Pill. She blows it off, eventually seeming to call people who are predisposed to consider what anthropologists have to say silly for believing what she clearly thinks is hogwash.

She also finds a way to make sure that it looks like someone is leaving out lesbians: “I’m also sure lesbians in the audience will be amused to hear their hormones direct them to this man or that, depending on their cycle.”

No. While the article is clearly hetero-centric and doesn’t take into account the fact that lesbians ovulate just as much as heterosexual women do, Amanda doesn’t take into account the fact that “domestic” and “rebellious” are not traits that only exist in heterosexual people. If the study is more or less accurate in it’s hypothesis, then lesbian women would be more attracted to more “domestic” women while on the Pill.

There was a thread on Feministe a while back, reviewing a book about all kinds of lefty-natural-green-save-the-planet things. Like how antibiotics in your system will kill fertile soil when it goes from your body to the earth. The author found this out by pooping in his yard regularly, and noted the difference when he pooped while taking antibiotics.

Everyone got mad at me, and the author or the post told me not to comment on that thread again, because I was too snarky for them (I was of the belief that there was nothing too snarky for Feministe commentariat) and “condescending” because of what I said in the comments about the reviewer’s criticism about the author’s claim that the Pill is bad for the planet. I heard all kinds of reasons why I should be just totally fine with toxic chemicals in my drinking water:

also your call for eliminating antidepressants and other drugs “for the good of the planet” is pretty damned ableist. i think my not committing suicide from uncontrolled depression takes priority here.

I think that if I am going to be called an ableist for understanding that many chemicals in anti-depressants are bad for those using them and also, eventually, for those who choose not to use them, then it could be argued that you could be labeled selfish for choosing to save yourself from the magnitude of your depression rather than the health of 6 billion other people.

he is causing MAJOR environmental issues by possibly introducing foreign bacterial colonies to local soil populations. VERY BAD idea to be eating things from ALL OVER the planet and then pooping them out on the surface of the soil.

“Foreign bacterial colonies”… Hmm. I guess hormonal birth control doesn’t count as something foreign to introduce to the local soil populations… I guess soil just evolves happily with synthetic hormones, but not with this guy’s poop?

Why are all of these feminists so reluctant and angry and unwilling to admit that sometimes, these things are bad, and that even if we think they’re bad, we should keep them around all the time for everyone anyway? Ok. Science knows nothing? Then why not let the religious right have what they want, and teach Creationism in schools? That’s a good idea, then, right? If we follow the proposed logic, anyway.

I get the concern about people who are dependent on prescription medication, and I’m not proposing that we make prescription medication illegal. I also think that it’s very important to consider that many people are dependent on prescription medications because of conditions caused by pollution, toxins used in our household cleaners, baby formula, and poor health decisions that didn’t exist 100 years ago. Do we want to eradicate this trend, or perpetuate it? Again, I’m not advocating forbidding medication to those in existence who need them, but there has to be another option. Am I willing to say that having the Pill is an even trade for the slow, inevitable death of our planet, if we keep it up?

No.

It’s time for feminism to get out of bed with the pharmaceutical companies and think about their health, the health of other women, and the health of the rest of the planet that we all claim to care deeply about.

The catch is that there are women who genuinely suffer from excruciating pain when they have their periods, who haven’t been able to find comfort in anything but hormonal contraceptives. This, I understand. I’m not trying to advocate taking your only comfort away from you. But that isn’t the end. “Some people neeeed them” isn’t a good enough reason to ignore the fact that Big Pharma, the FDA, and the rest of the government really don’t care about you or me or anyone else. It isn’t a good enough reason to keep up production and not demand regulations and absolute, 100% safety in these products. That’s what they are: products. Have we forgotten that we, as a users of oral contraceptives, are not people with a problem that you’re taking a pill to treat or “cure,” but a consumer of a product? I think we have. Consider, then, that manufacturers of these products are going to do what they can to manufacture these drugs as cheaply as possible, which will create the highest profit, which means the product will be sub-par in quality. A trend that has always led to adverse effects on our health, and everyone else’s that manages to inadvertently come in contact with it. Under-regulated drug designers are concerned with their profit, and only with their profit. They are in the business they are in, not because they care about increasing the quality of the lives of the people who purchase their products, but because they know that there is a demand for oral contraception, and they want to get in on the profit. Even the religious suppression of the Pill in the United States has never overcome its demand.

I was on The Pill for a few months. I figured I might as well, since I was in a monogamous relationship and it seemed terrifically convenient to pop a pill a day and say goodbye to condoms. I imagine that’s the way most women feel when they go on The Pill for contraceptive reasons.

My experience, however, was less than pleasant I grew incredibly depressed. My breasts hurt constantly, and I had cramps that were worse than the ones I got with my period. My doctor asked me absolutely zero questions and basically just handed me the prescription that she figured would be best, and I therefore had no idea what to expect or what to do, other than take the thing at the same time every day. I didn’t ask her any questions because I trusted that she knew best. When I got to the end of the first 3 weeks, and took the placebo pills, I started to bleed, as though I had my period. From Wikipedia, explaining the placebo pills:

The placebo pills allow the user to take a pill every day; remaining in the daily habit even during the week without hormones. Placebo pills may contain an iron supplement, as iron requirements increase during menstruation.

Failure to take pills during the placebo week does not impact the effectiveness of the pill, provided that daily ingestion of active pills is resumed at the end of the week.

I guess it just didn’t occur to me that I’d need to be reminded to do the thing that stopped me from possibly getting pregnant while I bled. Oh, but I didn’t even need to bleed:

The withdrawal bleeding that occurs during the break from active pills was thought to be comforting, as a physical confirmation of not being pregnant.[55] The 28-day pill package also simulates the average menstrual cycle, though the hormonal events during a pill cycle are significantly different from those of a normal ovulatory menstrual cycle.

So I took a pill so that I didn’t get pregnant. My breasts grew one cup size (permanently) as a result of the extra estrogen that my body didn’t need or want to produce or accomodate; everything hurts; I’m depressed as hell. Fuck this– there are plenty of other ways that I can prevent myself from getting pregnant when I don’t want to be. And don’t even think of telling me that one way to help the depression while still taking The Pill is to start taking an anti-depressant. Just don’t bother.

I know that my experiences are not the same as every woman’s, and I wouldn’t presume to tell other women that they shouldn’t do something simply because I had a bad experience with them. On the other hand, many women report problems with The Pill. Many women need their PIll’s estrogen level increased or decreased because what they’re doing is introducing more of one hormone (actually, two; progesterone is the other active ingredient in The Pill) into the body, that the body doesn’t naturally produce, that the body does not want. Since the body does not produce it and does not want it, it creates negative effects. Like depression, tender breasts, cramping (fooling your body into believing it’s pregnant, so it doesn’t think it needs to let you get that way), blood clots, breast cancer.

Once I realized that my depression was so severe and I couldn’t figure out why, I had a spark of curiosity and Googled The Pill. When I read about the depression, I stopped taking it. When I read about how my “period” while on The Pill was not in any way real (I knew something seemed quite off), I got mad.

It’s time to stop blindly trusting the corporations that produce toxic chemicals and tell us that they symbolize our freedom. It’s absolutely nonsense to allow these corporations to get away with it, just because we can’t think of a better solution. Let’s focus on a different way to help women with reproductive freedom; The Pill is clearly more detrimental than beneficial.

update: Lookie here! I’m already called an ableist because I write a post that dares to discuss the negative side effects of oral contraceptives!

Shocking! Heaven forbid we allow ourselves to consider the larger environmental impact of our rampant pharmaceutical usage.

34 responses to “The Pill

  1. Your statement that people ought to go off anti-depressants in order to avoid harming the environment is truly inspiring. I hope that, since you are so dedicated to avoiding poisoning the ecosystem, you’re also aware of the need to stop doing the following:

    using or consuming animal products
    buying anything with throwaway packaging
    driving (buses and trains aren’t perfect either, but using them can be a good intermediate step to walking everywhere)
    flying
    using electric lights (seriously, just go to bed when it gets dark: it’s incredibly selfish of you to resist natural biorhythms at the expense of the rest of the planet’s population!)
    eating food you didn’t grow yourself in a 100% organic garden (and if it doesn’t produce enough, you should probably just starve since doing otherwise would be at least as selfish as reducing the magnitude of one’s depressing enough to avoid committing suicide!)
    using the Internet (I mean, unless you have a computer that doesn’t have any of those nasty toxic metals and which you power through solar or hand-cranked energy-generating devices)

  2. Elizabeth, while I appreciate your attempt at being cute and clever in order to push me into a corner where I cry out for my electronic toys and admit my own hypocrisy, it doesn’t have the effect I’m sure was desired when it was written. Perhaps you forgot to read the whole post:

    I get the concern about people who are dependent on prescription medication, and I’m not proposing that we make prescription medication illegal. I also think that it’s very, very, very important to consider that many, many people are dependent on prescription medications because of conditions caused by pollution, toxins used in our household cleaners, baby formula, and poor health decisions that didn’t exist 100 years ago.

    I don’t claim to know how to solve the rampant problem that we face in terms of what we are all doing to harm our planet, but I at least can admit that some things that I do, or did, or that I accept as “normal” could cause harm, in the long run, for many more people than just myself.

    • I’m very impressed by your ability to read my mind and determine my intent and only wish it were accompanied by an ability to remember the rest of what you yourself wrote (but perhaps you’ve neglected to find out what words mean before using them?)

      Your saying that “it could be argued that you could be labeled selfish for choosing to save yourself from the magnitude of your depression rather than the health of 6 billion other people”, whatever else you may say about dependence and legality (since I at least am well aware that you can call something selfish without calling for its being outlawed) implies that you either don’t believe that depression creates a legitimate need for drugs OR, alternatively, that even if it does, it’s still selfish to use them.

      And if you are going to make that argument while not taking care of your own habits which could be considered selfish on the exact same grounds then you are a hypocrite, no matter what you admit to, and you are ableist because you are expecting women with a disability to give up that which allows them to achieve a certain level of functionality while not giving up your own tools. In other words, you are expecting disabled women to be more selfless than you yourself are.

      • You’re deliberately taking bits and pieces of my arguments and having knee-jerk reactions about them when they aren’t necessary. You flat-out refuse to even be bothered with considering the fact that it’s true that many people don’t consider the impact their choices have on other people. Your arguments are hostile and only hostile, and your sarcasm is just annoying. If you’re upset with my tone, that’s understandable and fine with me. But you’re not even making sense anymore and in the process, you’ve continued calling me names and making vast and inaccurate assumptions about who I am. Hopefully you don’t intend to comment here anymore, because your comments will be deleted from now on.

  3. You’re right about there being a whole fucking lot of other birth control choices out there.

    A whole fucking lot that’ll not do shit for us except get us knocked up.

    But that’s the right thing, right? If the “natural” thing is inherently correct, right? Nevermind that having a ton of kids is probably worse for the environment than taking a pill and then having the audacity to piss. Nevermind that every time you use a condom (the ONLY option that also protects you from STDs)

    Nevermind the fact that birth control works perfectly fine for the majority of women who take it. Nevermind the fact that millions of people rely on prescription medication for things that have nothing to do with pollution or Big Scary Motherfucking Boogeyman Pharma.

    Honestly, I try to avoid personal arguments when talking to people online but fuck you. This is personal. Feminism is about choice, and you have just suggested that I should not have the choice to control my body as I see fit and that I should be forced to endure emotional ffering because it might effect the environment. How dare you.

    • Might affect the environment? Are you entirely unconvinced?

    • Oh, also. Feminism IS about choice, you’re absolutely right. The ability for women to make choices about their bodies and themselves. Do you also advocate that it’s totally awesome and feminist for a woman to choose to shoot the cashier of the local liquor store? It is, after all, a choice that she made.

      I’m willing to bet you probably would not approve of that particular choice. So… what’s your point again?

      If you’re going to comment here, at least attempt a discussion, rather than an all-out hate fest, complete with telling me “fuck you” and “how dare you.” That’s just unproductive.

      • You know, you sound exactly like Feminists for Life. I think that they’ve compared a woman’s choice to have an abortion to her choosing to murder somebody, too. You’re making an outrageous comparison. A woman has the right to choose what she does with her on body, including her right to control childbearing as she sees fit.

        It’s completely unproductive and hurtful for you to tell me–and the millions of other women who use birth control–that we need to stop because you think that it’s bad for the environment. That’s an incredibly personal part of someone’s life to butt your way into.

        Oh, and by your logic: yes, we should be telling women that they can only have a certain number of children! It’s selfish and harms the environment, remember? And after all, you know what’s best for us and you’re only saying things like this for our own good.

        • It’s only an outrageous comparison if you don’t believe that many of our choices affect more people than just ourselves.

          Anyway, it’s obnoxiously clear that you came here to pick fights with me, instead of having any kind of rational discussion that involves basic logic, considering how many things in the post and in subsequent comments that clarified exactly what you’re so mistakenly pissed about. I don’t have any interest in humoring your hostility. Don’t comment here anymore.

    • Nevermind that having a ton of kids is probably worse for the environment than taking a pill and then having the audacity to piss.

      Are you saying that women shouldn’t have children? That women should only have a certain amount of them? That we should pick an arbitrary limit of the number of kids to have if we choose to have them?

      Who are you to judge another woman’s reproductive choices?

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  5. …Lookie here! I’m already called an ableist…

    Menstruation is a disability???

    • That, apparently, and criticizing medications that some people take means that I hate them for being dependent on the drug(s).

      I find it all ridiculous.

  6. I realise that the Pill affects the environment, as do many things which we take for granted, and that we should be more aware of its environmental effects. And I understand that the Pill can do a lot of horrible things to a woman’s body. When I first went on it I bled solidly for five months and became suicidal.

    But I have endometriosis (and many women without illnesses have painful periods anyway). For me, the Pill isn’t a consumer product, it’s medication. I’ve changed Pills and it’s amazing. I’m still in agony for a couple of days when I have my period, but the rest of the time I can function. I’m not crippled for two weeks out of every month because I can’t walk due to the pain.

    So yeah, I agree that there are problems with the Pill and that people don’t really think about the environmental consequences; but for many women (and for feminism), supporting every woman’s right to take the Pill has nothing to do with the “Big Pharma”, but is about women’s right to control their fertility and their right to live without pain. Yes, the Pill’s oversubscribed but I’m selfish enough to think that life without agony is worth ruining the environment slightly more than I would do anyway.

    • I appreciate your comment. Thank you for not being hostile.

      I thought about endometriosis when I wrote the post, because I know people who suffer from it and I know the pain they go through. What I guess wasn’t made clear enough in my original post is that I in no way propose taking people’s medication away from them, contraceptives or otherwise. I think that we should be actively looking for alternatives that are better for women’s health and the environment and stop pretending that there’s nothing at all wrong.

  7. When many people reading your work seem to call you ableist the insightful person might consider why that is. The only common thread here is you.

    That’s nastier than I want to be and I don’t like being like this rude but that’s the reaction your piece provoked from me. I’m on anti-depressants and I did feel attacked by this piece. You can (and have) say that that wasn’t the intent and that you were just trying to raise awareness for environmental issues but I still felt that way.

    I follow your explanation on how I’m taking it the wrong way. And I see the logic in it. It just seems like the logic that people always use regarding intent (ie “well you took my misogynistic joke the wrong way, I didn’t mean for it to be cruel”). If your piece seems to be inspiring people to feel judged and their concerns dismissed flippantly than maybe you should consider why that is.

    • You’re right, my tone was definitely flippant, which I understand to be the primary reason for the hostile responses. I expected them. As I just said in my reply to Leo, it seems I did not make it clear enough in my original post that I do not propose taking people’s medications from them. I care deeply about many people who are on prescription medication, some who are not likely to live without it. What I think needs to happen instead is a real attempt at eliminating the reasons for needing these drugs in the first place and finding safer alternatives for when they are needed.

      • Well honestly I thing that expecting hostile responses from hurt people and then going and publishing it anyway is worse than just screwing up.

        That said I would love to see some sources for areas that need improvement in terms of medical science. I don’t at all doubt that we have fucked things up in the environment and that that could be a factor in illness. Nor do I trust the pharmaceutical companies. I’m just the kinda person that doesn’t take such claims on faith.

        • I published it while knowing people would be angry because I know that I was not out to hurt people’s feelings, but to rant about a particular dangerous trend I see in the online feminist community.

          I don’t like to take claims like that on faith, either. I came to the conclusions that I have because of random articles I’ve read or stories on NPR that I’ve heard, and unfortunately wasn’t able to remember where to find all of them in order to thoroughly cite them in the post.

          • I don’t mean to beat a dead horse here but I’m still not sure we’re on the same page.

            I’m new to the feminism/anti-racism blog world but one of the lessons I see spelled out again and again is that intent isn’t really the point.

            That whether or not someone means to be racist/sexist/ableist/hurtful doesn’t change the reality that people have been hurt. And that regardless of what we mean we need to choose our words and what we say carefully.

            You seem to be operating on a different standard and I am curious what that standard is, and how it deals with the problem of unintentional racism/sexism.

          • The problem here is that I do not believe that I am an ableist, nor do I believe that my criticizing certain medications and their effects was an ableist thing to do. I know that everyone who’s commented so far disagrees, and I know that it will be very easy for anyone to suggest that perhaps the fact that all of these other people saying that it’s ableist means that I should just give in and decide to agree with them, but I do not, and I’ve thought about it extensively.

            On the other hand, I’m sure I could have gotten the messages in my post across by using a different tone, too. But… doesn’t anyone who’s angry about something vent about it in an angry tone once in a while? I understand that my words caused other people’s feelings to be hurt, but I’m not sure what you’re asking of me. An apology issued to those that I’ve hurt? I’m not sure anyone would accept such a thing, since I haven’t changed my position on how I feel about pharmaceutical companies and certain medications, and I am not likely to. People don’t generally take seriously an apology like “Sorry you were offended, but…”

            I’ve been considering altering some of it to read less attacking to the users of medications like those that I mention, but I figure that will just look like a cop-out, or like I’m trying to play it off like the original words. So, the only thing I’ve really decided to do is own what I say and leave it there. Perhaps I will be able to find a way to genuinely apologize to people whose feelings I genuinely hurt, but right now it doesn’t look so much like a bunch of hurt feelings, but instead, like a bunch of hyper-combative people eager to get angry about something they read on the internet (you and a couple other commenters being obvious exceptions to that observation).

            I’m interested though in your question about how the standard I’m operating with right now relates to the problems of unintentional racism and/or sexism. I’ll answer that in a different comment for the sake of length.

          • I understand what you are saying and maybe this is just a difference in personalty. I’m the kind of person that apologizes profusely so that is what seems natural to me and its what I would do if I was you. But I’m not and I realize that at least part of that tendency comes from low self esteem so forcing it on to others is a pretty bad idea.

            And I’d say that look at my first post and how I try hard to qualify all my statements to avoid being meaner than to some degree I wanted to be. Once again that’s what I try to do when angry and writing but that’s personal preference once again.

            Hell if I know what healthy people do.

            I’d be interested in hearing your thoughts on unintentional sexism/racism, I like hearing new perspectives on things, and stretching my mind.

          • I ams till planning on responding to that, give me a couple hours until my lunch break :)

          • Unintentional racism/sexism… well, I come from this as a white female, so as a female I’ve experienced men saying unintentionally sexist things to me or behaving toward me in an unintentionally sexist way. As a white person, I have been unintentionally racist in the same ways.

            What I think is so difficult and complex about unintentional racism and sexism is that the people who are guilty of it are, more often than not, of the impression that they are free from any racist or sexist thoughts. It’s easy for me to say that I am not racist, but because of my upbringing as a middle-class white person and my parents’ generation being less tolerant of minority populations (while also believing they were not racist), I have this perspective that I am not aware of until I hear or read a person of color’s perspective on the issue.

            My first reaction to an accusation of racism is often something to the effect of “I’m not racist!!!” It’s likely the same for many other white people, or for men when they are accused of being sexist. I think the reason for this is because there aren’t many people who want to be racist or sexist, or who want to be perceived that way. To many white people or men, racism and sexism are often thought to be deliberate thoughts and acts of hate, not long-held and often subconcious stereotypes, which is often how they play out and perpetuate racist and sexist behavior, regardless of the intention when the racist or sexist actions are made.

            That’s the most difficult for a person with any privilege to overcome, because no one wants to admit to being racist or sexist, and that often causes them to become overly defensive when confronted with their behaviors or told that they hurt someone with what they said or did. This, I think, perfectly illustrates the privilege/oppression model and how we as a society tend to be more comfortable perpetuating the cyclethan eliminating it, because in order ot eliminate it, priveleged people must realize that they did not earn thir privilege and, like it or not, privileged people often exhibit many racist/sexist/ableist/homophobic/etc behaviors without realizing it. This is hard to accept as a person of privilege.

            I don’t read your questions as though you are asking or advice, just another’s perspective, but I want to explain how I dealwith this sometimes: As a female, I know what it is like to deal with sexist behavior, and I am often quite able to see when it is unintentional. When I know that it is unintentional, I don’t feel as angry as I do hopeless. I feel like there is no way that people will stop being sexist and stop thinking of me and other women as less than they are without being the one to personally andpatiently educate each and every person who exhibits this behavior to me, which is exhausting. It’s the reason I originally created this blog, so that I could do so, in a nice and patient way, but with less effort, because I don’t have to talk to each person individually; I just have to write a post, and reply to some comments. Obviously, my original intent went astray when I started posting about things that made me angry, as opposed to real feminist issues and other issues of equality. Anyway, though, when I find myself in a situation where I am confronted with a question, accusation, or other assumption about race or ethnicity, I try to remember to, well, remember, my experiences dealing with unintentional sexism, and I use that as a guide.

            I know the neat formatting I have in this text field will look all smushed together when I post it, so I’m sorry for the lack of HTML usage allowed in this particular WordPress theme; it makes long comments very difficult to read.

            If I left anything out, or if I responded in a way that didn’t quite address what you were asking, please let me know.

    • I wanted to reply to this comment again, because you referenced it in a more recent comment. I wouldn’t worry about sounding mean, because (perhaps this was a happy accident) you posted after some really hostile-sounding people, so your comment was like a breath of fresh air.

  8. You can say you weren’t proposing taking people’s medication away all you like, but the post certainly sounds like “You’re a selfish jerk if you take medication”.

    And I too am on the Pill for medical issues outside of birth control – PMDD and Dysmenorrhea – and I take issue at being branded selfish for wanting to not be miserable and in crippling pain.

    And the only “YOU ARE HURTING THE ENVIIIIIIRONMENT” issue you seem to care about is medication which… yeah, is pretty ableist.

    And as Eric said, if virtually everybody seems to be reacting from being hurt, thinking about your approach might be worthwhile.

    • It’s not the only environmental issue I care about; it is the only environmental issue that I wrote about in a post that was titled “The Pill.”

      It’s a touchy issue for tons of reasons, but I don’t think that the fact that it’s touchy means that it shouldn’t be addressed.

    • One other thing, though, is that my comment about selfishness has been repeatedly taken out of context. I did not call anyone selfish.

  9. So why is it that you believe persons of colour when they say something is racist, but not persons with disabilities when they say something is ableist?

    • Criticizing the safety of a product is not ableist. That doesn’t make sense. Would you call someone sexist for criticizing the safety of your preferred method of controlling menstrual blood? I wouldn’t.

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